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  Are "you all" morons OR am I the moron?

  by Victoria Cruz in

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  from what i understand the wtbts is not affiliated with the un but the dpi (department of public information).

  if i am right... you all are the morons.

  if i am wrong the i am the moron.

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  I think what first tipped me off was the "United Nations" letterhead ;-)

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  MAJOR UN/WTS NEWS- UN LETTER & 1992 Press R...

  by hawkaw in

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  as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.

  and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .

  after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk

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  Hawk,

  not sure if I said it on this thread already, but you rock dude! Way to go!

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  Indepentant Bible Study w/o WTS!

  by sweetone2377 in

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  i've been interested in studying the bible, independant of any wts publications.

  but i am at a loss for where to start.

  also, i have no one, really, to discuss things with, such as what i'm finding or reading.

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  sweetone,

  In my experience, differing of opinion on various things is permitted in a Christian church. I know, its hard to believe this after experiencing the borg...

  If this is not for you though, something else you may want to consider is looking up an independent (non-denominational) Christian study and/or fellowship group; most cities will have such groups.

  Also I agree with Stephanus' suggestion. This is worth doing either way.

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  Indepentant Bible Study w/o WTS!

  by sweetone2377 in

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  i've been interested in studying the bible, independant of any wts publications.

  but i am at a loss for where to start.

  also, i have no one, really, to discuss things with, such as what i'm finding or reading.

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  sweetone,

  you may not know this, but most Christian churches have independent Bible study groups. When I say independent, I mean a study group that is organized by Christians in the church and not by the pastoral team per se. These are usually evening affairs, very casual, and it is *not* studying the Bible "through" the pages of the Watchtower rag, or any other pub.

  Just a suggestion.

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  Watchtower Insurance Inc?

  by Kent in

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  http://www.ins.state.ny.us/cdcha.htm .

  the watchtower is in this list.. on http://www.ins.state.ny.us/hp97wel.htm it is said:.

  the insurance department is responsible for supervising and regulating all insurance business in new york state.

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  FYI,

  I emailed this person requesting information about the "Watchtower Bible and Tract Society" insurance company.

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  HELP

  by Kophagangelos in

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  i need the aid!

  since today the elder knows that i am in the website of apostates often.

  they want to visit me.

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  Point out to them that ngo's associated with the UN are expected to support the work of the United Nations (UN = scarlet-colored wild beast).

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  In 1968, the Economic and Social Council, by Resolution 1297 (XLIV) of 27 May, called on DPI to associate NGOs, bearing in mind the letter and spirit of its Resolution 1296 (XLIV) of 23 May 1968, which stated that an NGO "...shall undertake to support the work of the United Nations and to promote knowledge of its principles and activities, in accordance with its own aims and purposes and the nature and scope of its competence and activities".
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  : http://www.un.org/MoreInfo/ngolink/brochure.htm

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  A Legal org to represent former JW issues?

  by Pathofthorns in

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  several issues, such as the un matter and others requiring comments to the press could possibly be better served if there were a small body of qualified individuals, including lawyers and other professionals and others that were former witnesses extremely well versed in jw issues.. comments to media, governments and various organizations on matters such as blood, child custody, child abuse etc would carry more weight coming from an "offical" organization.. in the former jw community there are many with good intentions but often find themselves making inaccurate or unrestrained, poorly worded or overly sensational comments.. these sorts of comments set the former witness community back and sometimes give credence to the labels placed upon us.

  on the other hand, well worded, accurate statements made with a knowlege of how the wt pr machine works can effectively tie their hands and force the wt to make changes.. with this in mind, what is the viability of such an association to represent former witnesses?

  it need not matter whether one is a christian or athiest or whatever, as the purpose would simply be to comment and investigate and expose wt policy.. i am sure this has been tossed around before.

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  Path,

  Some great points. Personally I would like to see some more organized "resistance" (for lack of a better word). Anyone who opposes the Borg is said to be part of the collective evil slave class anyway. I guess naming our new org "the Evil Slave Class" would be over the top, eh? Maybe something we could acronymize to "ESC" - lol,

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  'Apostates' are Victorious: a List

  by metatron in

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  these are merely summaries, to the extent my memory is accurate.. others (freeminds, watchtower observer) can provide the exact details.. 1) awake publishes holocaust issue - projects image of what 'stand.

  up guys' organization was during mass murder of jews.

  article.

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  Would the Greber incident qualify?

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  MAJOR UN/WTS/NGO NEWS - WTS IS GONE

  by hawkaw in

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  as of 11:45 this morning (i had a telphone call this morning with the refernce department person named holly at 212-963-7234), i can tell you that the watchtower has disassociated itself from the united nations dpi!!!!!!.

  the dpi is now taking them off the list.

  the dpi requested the list removal to be done this morning!!!!!.

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  Will do,

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  MAJOR UN/WTS/NGO NEWS - WTS IS GONE

  by hawkaw in

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  2. scandals

  as of 11:45 this morning (i had a telphone call this morning with the refernce department person named holly at 212-963-7234), i can tell you that the watchtower has disassociated itself from the united nations dpi!!!!!!.

  the dpi is now taking them off the list.

  the dpi requested the list removal to be done this morning!!!!!.

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  Detective,

  It sounds like you have or will refine the Press Release. At some point, could you post the refined version? I intend to forward it to several news agencies, and I will use myself as a contact for these agencies.

  Thanks.

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